Sunday, February 04, 2007
Loren, Chat 2, and she needs money!
Here's Lauren in our second chat, later that day. She failed to show up at the arranged time, but I noticed her online, and with her cam going, (via buddylist) 3 hours later.
She initially would not answer me. I'm guessing she was busy with another 'victim'.
During this chat, a friend was in the room with her.
When she finally responded to me, she could not remember me! I refreshed her memory. She said it was a joke. OK. Loren quickly launched into her sister needing money by 7 AM to take an exam in school. The amount mentioned was 3000 Pesos, ($61 US or so).
I stalled a bit. Loren said I could send it by WESTERN UNION.
I asked for the name to send the money to, and she gave me 'Hazel', and an address in Cebu.
I asked for her email address, and she said she 'didn't have one'.
I think her friend reminded her that her Yahoo ID was probably her email address, also. She couged it up.
I asked for my traditional 'display of sincerity and affection'. Loren stalled. She claimed she was in an internet cafe, and there were other people in the room. (Did not look like a cafe to me.)
She balked, and then vanished.
Is this a scam? Probably. Is the money going to be used for school?
I doubt it.
Loren appeared to be in a home, and on a PC with internet connection, and webcam. Not your typical impoverished Pinay setup.
During the course of our chats she was drinking bottled soda, and later juice pouches.
In the earlier chat she was wearing somewhat flashier clothes, and stood up early in the chat to 'set the hook'. (Tank top, belly showing, no bra, skimpy shorts.)
It appears to me every person in the room with her knew what she was doing, and it may be a family operation.
Many people say what these people are doing is understandable, due to the economic situation in the Philippines. I don't feel that way.
I think every SCAMMER who lies about needing money for school, medical expenses, or food, makes it more difficult for people who really need the money to get it.
They also besmirch the reputation of all people in the Philippines.
I know, admire and respect many Pinay. Not these!
Western Union and Moneygram are the favorite means of collecting money by scammers, and other people who don't wish to disclose a real identity.
ALWAYS be suspicious of any payment or money request specified by these means by somebody you do not personally know!
I actually enjoy posting pictures of the family members, and friends of this person. I feel they all know what she is doing, and the Mother may actually be a party. If they feel no shame in what they are doing, they should not be bothered by these pictures!
Meet Loren, Filipina chat beggar. First chat.
Meet 'Loren'. That may be her name? In the course of our two chats she mentioned three names, Sheila, Loren and 'Hazel'.
Loren pounced on me in a 'Japan' chat room. Said she was 19. She mentioned quickly she did not have money for nursing school, then chatted romantically with me for a long time. Occasionally she would mention she had 'problems'.
Sometimes 'Mom' would lean in and whisper something to her.
Later 'sister' appeared in view of the cam, and seemed to be watching what she was doing. Learning?
She danced back an forth, occasionally approaching the money request......but wandering off.
We parted with promises we would not chat with anyone else, and I would work on a trip to visit her in Cebu next month, and to meet back online in an hour and a half.
I even asked 'Mom's' blessing for her to have a middleaged boyfriend!
(Total BS, I am engaged and have no intention of visiting this person. I just wanted to play her along, until 'the bite'.)
Thursday, January 04, 2007
Another FILIPINA YIM beggar!
Meet Angelou, she is studying to be a teacher! Oh, how nice!
She claimed to be 20 years old, and in an internet cafe, but it looked like a shabby home with several computers.
I noticed she was looking at somebody else in the room at times, and it seemed was being talked through the process.
Angelou chatted politely a bit, then said she was short of money for tuition, and heard people on chat often help.
I played along a bit, and noticed she was getting increasing help from whoever else was in the room, off cam.
When questioned, she said her 'Aunt' was with her in the internet cafe. I asked to have the aunt come on cam, and she did, smiling!
I asked her to swing her cam around the 'internet cafe' so I could see it, and she pointed it at the walls and ceiling. Didn't look like an internet cafe to me. I didn't see any other desks, and maybe one computer, maybe the one she was using.
I didn't see any other customers.
She asked for $200, by WESTERN UNION. She gave me her name and address.
She did not want me to mail it, she said it would take too long.
Most of the time, Angelou looked sad, or worried, but would occasionally glance toward her Aunt and start laughing.
This is a pretty typical Filipina chat ploy. They'll frequently ask for money for school, emergencies, or living expenses.
Most Filipinas are nice ladies. These are not.
Never send money!!!
Do I have proof it's a scam, not really. I suspect it's a scam, due to her demeanor, and the use of Western Union. It's a scam if the money asked for is not intended to be used for school.
Maybe she's just a beggar?
Saturday, October 21, 2006
'Janet' contacted me on Skype, then proceeded to tell me she wanted a white husband, and/or money via Western Union, so she could study 'physis' in College!
There are many scammers on Skype, as well as any chat room! Never send money!
'Janet' has a homepage, of sorts!!
c/o Afia Duku
p.o.box kj 783
Ghana west Africa
owusu_94 on Skype
Saturday, October 07, 2006
Why only Filipina pictures?
Why? Nigerian scammers typically use stolen pictures, of white, black, or any race.....men or women.
They will have some excuse they can't use a cam! They're happy to send you pictures of attractive people they've stolen from the internet.
They may also call you on the phone, but they usually don't show up 'on cam'.
Why? They can't!!!!!
The person you are chatting with, whether they claim to be a white, or black lady, or man, is usually a young black man, using an internet cafe.
They will come up with many stories! Don't believe them!
Don't send money to anyone you meet on chat!
If you can't see them on cam, you don't know who they are!
Even if you see them on chat, they may be a scammer, albeit, a stupid one!
I will post pictures of any scammer I can verify on cam! Since many use stolen pictures, of innocent people, I don't like to post the pictures.
Elhai_ems verified on cam
Sheila has a cam now! I can now verify the girl in the pictures she sent me, is the girl on IM and cam!
I noticed a 'view my cam' notation next to her name on my buddy list.
I requested to see it.
When the cam came on, Sheila had her shirt pulled up, and was displaying her chest to another chatter.
Class act! I did get a brief look at her largish assets, but did not get a pic.
This is a picture she sent me, showing her possibly nude, also.
Elhai_ems on Yahoo IM.
She claimed to need money for her college tuition in an earlier chat, (computer sciences major) but did not know how to send an email.
DON'T SEND MONEY!!
UPDATE: Sheila will display herself with a little prompting, on cam!!! I've contacted her under several male names. She's asked all for money to 'pay for college'.
Sunday, October 01, 2006
Safety on Chat and IM
You need to take some steps to protect yourself from them if you frequent chat rooms.
If somebody connects to you, and wants to chat, check the profile FIRST! I am always suspicious of a blank profile, and vague USER name. SCAMMERS will often adjust gender to suit the person they are chatting with, sometimes in mid-chat!
"Oh, look, my sister just walked in the room. She is young and pretty. Do you want to talk to her?"
Do NOT give your real, full name, or any personal details to anyone you only know on chat! You do not need to lie, just don't tell them. Anyone who has any sense, or any concern for you as a person, will understand your caution.
My experience? People who constantly 'buzz', 'buzz', 'buzz', are ASSHOLES, or scammers, and not worth talking to! Frequently, middle eastern men do that constantly, when they connect to my MALE name, with a MALE profile, looking for a lady.
You DO NOT know who you are talking to if they send you a picture! You have a better idea of who you are talking to if they run a CAM. Ask them to make certain movements at your command. It is possible to run a 'fake webcam', with a looped video. I will not turn my cam on, for people who do not have a cam, also. The other person having a cam does not mean they are not up to no good, but it filters out quite a lot of the scammers, and perverts.
If you don't see a live body, moving on the cam, you have no idea what, or who, is watching you!
Remember, there is software out there that allows you to take pictures or videos while watching a webcam. The little show you put on 'in private', may be all over the internet in a few hours.
It is possible for a SCAMMER to hack into your computer during an IM, or CAM session. Make sure you are running a firewall, and your security software is up to date. I am suspicious
when the other person is taking too long to respond. I will cut my cam off, and the chat.
NIGERIAN scammers are all over the internet! They may approach you as a person of either sex, and send appropriate pictures, but the pictures are not of the person you are chatting with, but stolen from the internet.
NIGERIANS may either try to involve you in a '419' scam, or a romance scam. They usually have some story that they are from 'x' country, but working in Nigeria, (Or other African nation) temporarily. They may write or chat for weeks, before they are 'in love', or some emergency arises. They will ask for money by WESTERN UNION, or MONEYGRAM.
DO NOT SEND MONEY!
Western Union and Moneygram are favored by scammers because it is possible for them to pick up the money with minimal ID, ANYWHERE in the country it was sent to!
You may be sending money to Romeo Smallboi in Lagos, but he can be picking it up ANYWHERE in Nigeria! (Or Russia, the Philippines, etc.) With difficulty, Western Union or Moneygram will tell you which city it was actually picked up in, but much too late to do any good, and the ID presented is false, or insufficient to prosecute the scammer. You DON'T know who really picked the money up!
Nigerians will come up with all sorts of business deals, shady, and seemingly legit. KEEP AWAY!
One favorite scam is to get you to deposit checks or money orders in your bank account, keep some, send the rest via Western Union or Moneygram to them. The checks or money orders look OK, the bank accepts them. You send the money. Weeks later, they turn out to be COUNTERFEIT. Guess who is left holding the bag? Not the scammer!
Nigerians, and Filipinas, will also outright ask for MONEY for living expenses, or emergencies, often with a sad story. If you feel charitable, I'm sure there's an appropriate established charity you can give money to. Don't fall for a 'story' by a SCAMMER or BEGGAR.
DON'T SEND MONEY!
Protect your identity! YAHOO doesn't seem to care about what happens on the chat rooms.
If a scammer contacts you in a chat room, warn other people on the chat room. Usually the scammers change rooms frequently. POST the scammer ID on a SCAM bulletin board.
You DO NOT know who is on the other end of a chat! Without a cam, I can pretend to be a nubile 18 year old girl, handsome 35 year old man, or anything, and everything. Be careful.
Saturday, September 30, 2006
Miraflor81, Beggar, scammer, or cam girl?
I lurk in various Yahoo IM chat rooms, saying nothing, and the scammers seem to find me!
Meet Miraflor81. I'm not sure if she is a beggar, scammer, or cam girl? She had elements of all three.
She claimed to have two children. She was online from an internet cafe.
She asked for $200, to be sent by Western Union, for living expenses.
She later agreed to find a private room with cam to do some shows, but wanted money in advance. I only try to get the girls I feel are scamming to reveal some details, or perform some embarrassing act, not trick a pro cam girl out of payment. If the lady presents herself as a 'cam girl', it's not so much a scam, UNLESS she uses some sad story, or romance angle, and is willing to accept money without some 'services'. It's a strange 'gray area'. Maybe they are just beggars? I post this info. in case they contact some unwitting man, who may think this girl in romantically interested in him, and not just in his money. I don't do this to shame Pinay, in general. They're nice ladies. The bad ones stick out!
Excerpts from the chat.......
pete (9/27/2006 4:45:21 AM): you look so sad???
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:45:42 AM): yes
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:45:58 AM): am sad maybe i have my problem
pete (9/27/2006 4:46:07 AM): What is your problem?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:46:20 AM): is it really shy
pete (9/27/2006 4:46:32 AM): you are shy?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:47:00 AM): yah coz it is financial problem
pete (9/27/2006 4:47:04 AM): Yes
pete (9/27/2006 4:48:51 AM): I don't know if I can help you with money?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:49:15 AM): yah
pete (9/27/2006 4:49:26 AM): How much do you need, and why??
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:49:29 AM): but u will expect return for that
pete (9/27/2006 4:49:40 AM): I will expect a return?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:49:55 AM): oh
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:49:59 AM): how come
pete (9/27/2006 4:50:07 AM): I don't understand
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:50:24 AM): what return would u like?
pete (9/27/2006 4:50:32 AM): I don't know?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:50:40 AM): ok
pete (9/27/2006 4:50:51 AM): You are a pretty lady
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:50:54 AM): if i will say i want money to be honest
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:51:17 AM): i want to have for me and my kids
pete (9/27/2006 4:51:36 AM): maybe I could meet you later this year, if you really want an older husband?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:51:46 AM): yespete (9/27/2006 4:51:54 AM): How old are your children?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:52:04 AM): 2 and 3 yrs old
pete (9/27/2006 4:52:10 AM): I wish I could see you smile!!!!! You look so serious!!
pete (9/27/2006 4:52:31 AM): almost a little smile!
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:52:37 AM): yeah
pete (9/27/2006 4:52:42 AM): so temporary!!
pete (9/27/2006 4:52:47 AM): you seem so sad
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:52:48 AM): so can u help me?
pete (9/27/2006 4:52:53 AM): I might be able to
pete (9/27/2006 4:52:58 AM): how much?
pete (9/27/2006 4:53:05 AM): I don't have a lot of money
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:53:30 AM): 200dollars
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:53:32 AM): only
pete (9/27/2006 4:53:39 AM): that's a lot
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:53:49 AM): no but can help
pete (9/27/2006 4:53:52 AM): how would I send it??? Could I mail it?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:53:59 AM): yah
pete (9/27/2006 4:55:12 AM): I will think about helping you
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:55:20 AM): why/
pete (9/27/2006 4:55:26 AM): what can you do in return?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:55:43 AM): my love and affection
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 4:55:56 AM): if u can get here
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:01:58 AM): can u help me?
pete (9/27/2006 5:01:59 AM): Where would I mail the money if I sent it?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:02:26 AM): i think through western union money transfer
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:02:38 AM): through my name and address
pete (9/27/2006 5:02:50 AM): What is your full name and address?
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:03:02 AM): miraflor salutan
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:03:27 AM): P-1 San Juan, San Jose, Surigao del Norte
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:03:32 AM): Philippines
pete (9/27/2006 5:03:43 AM): Ok
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:03:46 AM): did u get
pete (9/27/2006 5:03:51 AM): do you have phone??
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:03:57 AM): yah
miraflor salutan (9/27/2006 5:04:08 AM): +0639102364627
Mira claimed to have been 'married' to an older man, the father of her two children, but she also claimed he was married, and went back to his wife. She did say he was financially supporting the children.
I'm not trying to make major judgement or moral calls here. I feel she will say or do anything for money.
Don't send money to ANYONE by Western Union!
Elhai_ems, Starving student, or scammer??
Sheila needs money to continue her studies. Of course, this money can be sent by..........................................WESTERN UNION!
She would not appear on cam, but sent me pictures or a dark skinned girl. Some photos are head/shoulders shots, and it appears she is semi-nude. When questioned about this, she hinted that with money for a webcam, some things were possible.
Of course, she is interested in marrying me! I won't publish the pictures she sent me, unless I can verify she is 'that' person on cam.
Here are excerpts from the first chat.
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:22:50 PM): r u leaving?
pete (9/6/2006 12:23:03 PM): no what is your problem?
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:23:39 PM): im shy to tell.........
pete (9/6/2006 12:23:55 PM): Go ahead
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:24:34 PM): i cant pay for my tuition fee in school, and for that, i cant take my exams.. im shy......
pete (9/6/2006 12:25:20 PM): wow too bad
pete (9/6/2006 12:25:28 PM): how much do you need?
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:26:04 PM): about 5,000 pesos............
pete (9/6/2006 12:30:15 PM): If I wanted to help you with money, how would I get it to you??
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:30:36 PM): do u know western union?
pete (9/6/2006 12:31:00 PM): yes
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:31:33 PM): u can send me the money through western union......
And then, the 'computer sciences major' email enigma............
pete (9/6/2006 12:34:09 PM): I can help you with money, but I need to verify who you are
pete (9/6/2006 12:34:33 PM): can you send me a copy of your identification???
pete (9/6/2006 12:34:45 PM): You have a student ID or something??
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:35:03 PM): ah..wat do u mean u need to verify whho i am?
pete (9/6/2006 12:35:09 PM): I don't know you
pete (9/6/2006 12:35:35 PM): If I could see you on cam, at least I would know what you looked like for sure.
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:36:28 PM): i have my student ID....but i hav no cam......
pete (9/6/2006 12:36:41 PM): can you make a copy of it and email it to me???
pete (9/6/2006 12:37:04 PM): Maybe you can go to internet cafe and use cam there?
pete (9/6/2006 12:37:11 PM): I would be happier seeing you
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:37:52 PM): ok.. il find time to go to an internet cafe..
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:37:57 PM): dont u trust me?
pete (9/6/2006 12:37:58 PM): OK
pete (9/6/2006 12:38:29 PM): but can you email me a copy of your ID??? I have had a lady trick me before, sorry
pete (9/6/2006 12:38:39 PM): I've never seen you
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:40:27 PM): ok.. its ok if u dont help me.. how can i email u my ID?
pete (9/6/2006 12:40:43 PM): use a scanner
pete (9/6/2006 12:40:51 PM): maybe internet cafe has it?
pete (9/6/2006 12:41:01 PM): copy shop will
pete (9/6/2006 12:41:15 PM): turn it into jpg file, like a picture?
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:42:15 PM): ok.. il try.. is there any other way that u can verify me?
pete (9/6/2006 12:42:42 PM): See you on cam would help?
pete (9/6/2006 12:42:59 PM): I don't mind helping with a little money, but I need to know who you are.
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:44:28 PM): is there any other way for u to verify who i am? except for the ID?
pete (9/6/2006 12:46:54 PM): I dont' know
pete (9/6/2006 12:46:59 PM): DO these things
pete (9/6/2006 12:47:06 PM): send me a copy of your ID
pete (9/6/2006 12:47:12 PM): let me see you on cam
pete (9/6/2006 12:47:21 PM): That should be enough
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:47:59 PM): ok.. is my pics isnt enough?
pete (9/6/2006 12:49:21 PM): No
pete (9/6/2006 12:49:40 PM): I can send you pictures of Imelda Marcos, but I'm not her, am i???
pete (9/6/2006 12:54:27 PM): do yo want my email address????
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:55:15 PM): email address? where can i apply ur email add?pete (9/6/2006 12:55:38 PM): you can send me an email when you get a copy of your ID
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:56:23 PM): where can i find ur email?
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:56:35 PM): how can i send my ID on ur email?
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:57:46 PM): wait.. how wil i send my ID on ur email?
pete (9/6/2006 12:57:59 PM): as a scan, a picture
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 12:59:30 PM): where will i type ur email? in yahoo? or friendster?
pete (9/6/2006 1:00:02 PM): yahoo
pete (9/6/2006 1:00:11 PM): just like an email
pete (9/6/2006 1:00:23 PM): to send me an email
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 1:00:44 PM): i dont know how to send an email........
pete (9/6/2006 1:01:00 PM): ok
pete (9/6/2006 1:01:14 PM): then I guess I can't help you
pete (9/6/2006 1:01:27 PM): You won't make an effort to prove who you are
pete (9/6/2006 1:01:41 PM): you can't send an email??
pete (9/6/2006 1:01:51 PM): maybe you should not finish college?
pete (9/6/2006 1:01:56 PM): You may not be capable
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 1:02:24 PM): ok.. il try to learn how to send u my ID through email...
Sheila Kris Aquino (9/6/2006 1:02:39 PM): and i wil go to cafe for u to see me..........
pete (9/6/2006 1:02:51 PM): ok email me or talk to me on chat
pete (9/6/2006 1:02:56 PM): I need to go
I'm still in touch with Sheila, off and on. She is still dodging gettting on cam. Can't figure out how to send an email. (Maybe that's covered in Graduate school in the Philippines?)
DON'T SEND MONEY! NEVER SEND MONEY TO SOMEBODY YOU MEET ON THE INTERNET BY WESTERN UNION OR MONEYGRAM!
UPDATE:10-6-06 She has a cam! I noticed the 'view my webcam' on next to her name on my buddylist, asked to view it, and when it came on, she was baring her breasts, (rather large ones) on the cam for somebody else.
Along with a brief eyefull, I am able to verify that the pics Sheila sent me, are the the person on chat, and cam. SO.....I added her pics!
Friday, September 29, 2006
419 Type SCAMMER on Yahoo IM.
This will probably turn out to be a NIGERIAN scammer, pretending to be Chinese!
What will happen?? I will have to provide my bank account details for them to transfer the $9,000,000 into. They will transfer nothing, but clean my bank account out!!
Don't play with these people!! You will never get some mysterious windfall from a stranger!!